Edward Cullen #6

[swedishskinjer]

The difference is that Viktor had battle experience, extensive battle experience. Edward has limited history on the battlefield, even one as small as one-on-one. Jasper is the fighter, not Edward. So I don't think his years would be that much of an advantage to him.

That's true, as well. Edward has mostly killed humans (during his darker days) and animals, which don't pose much of a challenge to his kind. However, I'd like to think that living for nearly a century has allowed Edward to think more extensively about strategies and fighting than Jacob has, since he hasn't been a shapeshifter/wolf for as long as Edward has been a vampire. It's very possible that Jasper, who is technically Edward's "brother", taught him his combat knowledge.

[Heart_in_Hand]

Jasper, Emmet and Edward play-fought all the time.

[Esme echo]

Jasper was the Cullens' most experienced fighter, but when Edward assisted Jasper during the "newborn training" their fight was a draw (E 397). Bella mentioned how good a fighter Edward was when he refused to help train her to fight (BD 616).

[una]

However, part of the reason that Edward is a good fighter is because he is fast (remember Esme says at the baseball game, Emmett hits the farthest, but Edward is the fastest) and that he reads minds, so if your opponent is thinking through their strategy and such, Edward knows where and when to block... It's not that he's a very experienced fighter, he has skills that make him a difficult adversary.

Which now makes me wonder, in the clip we have seen from the movie New Moon, how is Edward being bested by the Volturi guard?

[swedishskinjer]

However, part of the reason that Edward is a good fighter is because he is fast (remember Esme says at the baseball game, Emmett hits the farthest, but Edward is the fastest) and that he reads minds, so if your opponent is thinking through their strategy and such, Edward knows where and when to block... It's not that he's a very experienced fighter, he has skills that make him a difficult adversary.

Which now makes me wonder, in the clip we have seen from the movie New Moon, how is Edward being bested by the Volturi guard?

Stephenie told the New Moon crew that Felix's gift is fighting, which is why he's the foremost fighter for the Volturi. Think of the strength and speed of a vampire, and then multiply it. Edward does anticipate Felix's move, which is why he's able to throw him to the ground, but Felix is incredibly strong. Stephenie approved the small fight between Felix and Edward because Felix's gift lets him have enhanced strength and senses for an immortal.

[Esme echo]

Ah, sorry. I didn't realize we were talking about experience rather than ability. I would agree Edward is not an experienced fighter of vampires. Jasper was the only Cullen with vampire-fighting experience; well, except for the whole James thing.

I agree with Asheleyo that werewolves were designed to hunt vampires in packs, not one-on-one. I think Edward might have had an advantage over Jacob, physically, if they had gotten into a serious scrap . . . because of Edward's extra sense and his less-than fleshy body!

[Jazz Girl]

However, part of the reason that Edward is a good fighter is because he is fast (remember Esme says at the baseball game, Emmett hits the farthest, but Edward is the fastest) and that he reads minds, so if your opponent is thinking through their strategy and such, Edward knows where and when to block... It's not that he's a very experienced fighter, he has skills that make him a difficult adversary.

Which now makes me wonder, in the clip we have seen from the movie New Moon, how is Edward being bested by the Volturi guard?

Stephenie told the New Moon crew that Felix's gift is fighting, which is why he's the foremost fighter for the Volturi. Think of the strength and speed of a vampire, and then multiply it. Edward does anticipate Felix's move, which is why he's able to throw him to the ground, but Felix is incredibly strong. Stephenie approved the small fight between Felix and Edward because Felix's gift lets him have enhanced strength and senses for an immortal.

The fight scene between Felix and Edward in the film was one that raised my eyebrow. But, having seen the way it was done, and particularly listened to Rob's comments about it, I am anxiously looking forward to the finished product. The whole confrontation scene is one I would kill for from Edward's POV, quite honestly. We know from Twilight that Edward is extremely restrained, almost painfully so. My assumption is that it is to keep Bella from being caught in the crossfire or to prevent him from hurting her himself if he goes into fight mode (ie let's go of some of his Herculean control). I did love hearing Rob's comments. "He knows he doesn't have a hope in hell of winning. But, he can't not fight for the woman he loves."

What do you all think? What was Edward's ultimate reasoning behind not fighting in Volterra?

[Asheleyo]

What do you all think? What was Edward's ultimate reasoning behind not fighting in Volterra?[/color]

I assumed when reading that it was because he knew it would be bad for everyone on his side if a fight broke out, meaning he would lead to the death of the girl he loves, who had already risked her life for him. He didn't want to risk her life even further by being impetuous. If there was a chance of walking out of there, alive and in good health, he knew it wasn't through a fight but by appealing to Aro.

[RebeccaCullen]

Which now makes me wonder, in the clip we have seen from the movie New Moon, how is Edward being bested by the Volturi guard?

We've seen Alice keep things from Edward by thinking of something else, so that might be what they did. But considering that there were so many of them that could attack and Alice not see it, or Edward being focused in on one of the other members of the guard not to notice an attack coming until it's too late.

[Dovrebanen]

What do you all think? What was Edward's ultimate reasoning behind not fighting in Volterra?

I agree with Asheleyo. They way I see it, Edward's first and foremost thought was to protect Bella, and not let her out of his sight. Fighting the Volturi would mean that he would not have his guard up for her at all times. So I think he felt that they stood a better chance if they negotiated with the Volturi. I think he was also afraid that he just wasn't strong enough, and if they incapacitated him and Alice, Bella would be killed for sure.
From what we see in the clip from the fight scene, Edward flips Bella so that she is behind her (awsome move, btw ). But after that she is left pretty much unprotected while Edward is being thrown around the room. So I think that might be his biggest fear. He wouldn't let go of her.

I also think that JG has apoint, when you say that Edward didn't want to put himself in "fight"mode in front of Bella. I don't think he would hurt her, but I do think that he didn't want her to see that side of him. He was so scared when he had to kill Victoria in Eclipse, afraid of what Bella might think of him, so he might have been thinking somewhere along the same lines in Volterra.
But most of all, I think he didn't fight because he knew that they didn't stand a chance physically even with Alice's and his own talents combined.

I was also very sceptical when I heard that they added a fight scene in Volterra. But I guess it'll work out okay. It looks good in the clips we've seen.