Re: New Moon~ Lines/Scenes you would like in the movie
Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 4:26 pm
Wow, so much to think about. There are so many pivotal scenes, both to the development of the NM story, as well as Eclipse and BD. So many thoughts to sift through.
*First and foremost, they need to really spend some time developing the love story between Bella and Edward so that it isn't lost as a fling or lust. This would be fairly easy to do without taking too much time. An example would be doing a series of flashthroughs of a Bella/Edward day; inseperable at school, together at Bella's for homework and "dinner", Edward leaves and sneaks back for the evening, show him watching her sleep, something like that.
*Then, of course, the Romeo & Juliet scene is imperative. It lays the foundation for the idea that he cannot live without her and has no intention of doing so. And, this will be the best place to correct a huge whoops at the end of Twilight during the hospital scene. The whole plot of NM is set up when Edward says to Bella, " I am here as long as it is best for you." Whoops, they left that part out. A good time to put it back in would be here. Plus, then the set up of the Volturi. Another piece that is crucial here would be establishing the whole Carlisle vs Edward beliefs on the presence of a sould and an after life. Otherwise, the line, "Carlisle was right..." doesn't make much sense. Finally, if you are looking to establish romantic and loving, I can't think of any more romantic thing than Edward whispering Romeo's lines in Bella's ear.
*Then, of course, the birthday party. I think both Rob and Jackson will do a great job with that whole scene.
*One piece that is overlooked is the distancing Edward does after he's made the decision to leave. He spends three days preparing himself to break her. I know they can't spend a lot of time, but something of that has to be in there. That will be the perfect way to show the conflict he has over leaving her.
*The break up scene. I can't agree more with all of you who have said, this has to be gut-wrenching. When it is over, I want to be curled in a ball in my seat, trying to hold myself together. One of the things I find Rob incredibly gifted at is changing emotion mid stream. I think he has the potential to kill us all with this scene if the director and the screenwriter let him.
*The delusions are also a key. This will be a part that they are going to have to fight for because Summitt and Melissa Rosenberg have already said this is something they see as being a great way to have more of Rob in the film. Don't get me wrong. I am the last person to object to more Rob on the screen. But, it just doesn't work to say true to the film. I think the voice is enough. Show her approaching the bar-crawlers in Port Angeles and riding the motorcycle. Voice over Edward with those warnings. Maybe even have her pause, look around the first time or two. But, leave them as his warnings in her head. Thankfully, SM is a consultant again on NM. And, I think our brightest hope there is actually Rob himself. He did so much character work in creating Edward that I think he understands better than anyone how more than that presence would ruin the whole thing.
* The relationship development with Jacob has to be there. This is another key building block to the rest fo the series, particularly the action in Eclipse. They can certainly combine a lot of it, but the relationship has to blossom. And we have to see what Jacob is to her: As Edward says, he puts her back together. It's crucial.
* I would actually love to see them insert the "deleted scene" of Rosalie's call to Edward. That could be another way to show how absolutely over life he is without Bella.
* I won't go into the whole Voluturi thing. That's pretty much guaranteed to be okay. The one piece they can't leave out is the whole threat to verify that Bella is changed. Again, crucial to subsequent action.
* They have to be careful not to screw up the reunion. The constant touching and holding is essential. It would be something to easily overlook. But, as someone who has survived and extended seperation from my other half, I can tell you that is a key piece of the reunion: constant physical contact to ensure you aren't dreaming and this person is, in fact, real and present.
* Which, of course, leads to the scene in Bella's bedroom. I too am a sucker for the, "You're not asleep, and you're not dead..." line. But, lines is a whole other posting. They have to allow for the explanation of why he left and for Edward's pain.
* The confrontation between Edward and Jake at the end. But, they absolutely have to put in Edward thanking him for saving Bella. That is the absolute core of who Edward is. He recognizes just how much he owes his enemy, and he never leaves a debt unpaid. I will say as to lines, they have to include, in this scene, the exchange about anything within Edward's power, but leaving isn't within his power, that is a Bella decision.
Yeah, so I just wrote a novel, but thoses are my thoughts. I have come to better acceptance of Chris Weitz as the director, but I am still freaked by the timeline. Do it right guys. You don't want a bunch of pissed of Twilighters on your tails.
*First and foremost, they need to really spend some time developing the love story between Bella and Edward so that it isn't lost as a fling or lust. This would be fairly easy to do without taking too much time. An example would be doing a series of flashthroughs of a Bella/Edward day; inseperable at school, together at Bella's for homework and "dinner", Edward leaves and sneaks back for the evening, show him watching her sleep, something like that.
*Then, of course, the Romeo & Juliet scene is imperative. It lays the foundation for the idea that he cannot live without her and has no intention of doing so. And, this will be the best place to correct a huge whoops at the end of Twilight during the hospital scene. The whole plot of NM is set up when Edward says to Bella, " I am here as long as it is best for you." Whoops, they left that part out. A good time to put it back in would be here. Plus, then the set up of the Volturi. Another piece that is crucial here would be establishing the whole Carlisle vs Edward beliefs on the presence of a sould and an after life. Otherwise, the line, "Carlisle was right..." doesn't make much sense. Finally, if you are looking to establish romantic and loving, I can't think of any more romantic thing than Edward whispering Romeo's lines in Bella's ear.
*Then, of course, the birthday party. I think both Rob and Jackson will do a great job with that whole scene.
*One piece that is overlooked is the distancing Edward does after he's made the decision to leave. He spends three days preparing himself to break her. I know they can't spend a lot of time, but something of that has to be in there. That will be the perfect way to show the conflict he has over leaving her.
*The break up scene. I can't agree more with all of you who have said, this has to be gut-wrenching. When it is over, I want to be curled in a ball in my seat, trying to hold myself together. One of the things I find Rob incredibly gifted at is changing emotion mid stream. I think he has the potential to kill us all with this scene if the director and the screenwriter let him.
*The delusions are also a key. This will be a part that they are going to have to fight for because Summitt and Melissa Rosenberg have already said this is something they see as being a great way to have more of Rob in the film. Don't get me wrong. I am the last person to object to more Rob on the screen. But, it just doesn't work to say true to the film. I think the voice is enough. Show her approaching the bar-crawlers in Port Angeles and riding the motorcycle. Voice over Edward with those warnings. Maybe even have her pause, look around the first time or two. But, leave them as his warnings in her head. Thankfully, SM is a consultant again on NM. And, I think our brightest hope there is actually Rob himself. He did so much character work in creating Edward that I think he understands better than anyone how more than that presence would ruin the whole thing.
* The relationship development with Jacob has to be there. This is another key building block to the rest fo the series, particularly the action in Eclipse. They can certainly combine a lot of it, but the relationship has to blossom. And we have to see what Jacob is to her: As Edward says, he puts her back together. It's crucial.
* I would actually love to see them insert the "deleted scene" of Rosalie's call to Edward. That could be another way to show how absolutely over life he is without Bella.
* I won't go into the whole Voluturi thing. That's pretty much guaranteed to be okay. The one piece they can't leave out is the whole threat to verify that Bella is changed. Again, crucial to subsequent action.
* They have to be careful not to screw up the reunion. The constant touching and holding is essential. It would be something to easily overlook. But, as someone who has survived and extended seperation from my other half, I can tell you that is a key piece of the reunion: constant physical contact to ensure you aren't dreaming and this person is, in fact, real and present.
* Which, of course, leads to the scene in Bella's bedroom. I too am a sucker for the, "You're not asleep, and you're not dead..." line. But, lines is a whole other posting. They have to allow for the explanation of why he left and for Edward's pain.
* The confrontation between Edward and Jake at the end. But, they absolutely have to put in Edward thanking him for saving Bella. That is the absolute core of who Edward is. He recognizes just how much he owes his enemy, and he never leaves a debt unpaid. I will say as to lines, they have to include, in this scene, the exchange about anything within Edward's power, but leaving isn't within his power, that is a Bella decision.
Yeah, so I just wrote a novel, but thoses are my thoughts. I have come to better acceptance of Chris Weitz as the director, but I am still freaked by the timeline. Do it right guys. You don't want a bunch of pissed of Twilighters on your tails.
But I agree with everything you said. I feel like twilight didn't have some of the details that could be easily overlooked, but show the progression of Edward and Bella's relationship. If they include the right details in New Moon, it might have (close to) the same effect on the viewers as the book had on its readers. Like I said before, I want to feel the same emotions as I felt reading the books, and I think everything you said will do this, as well as set up the story for future movies.
