New Moon Movie Take 4...and a half

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Re: New Moon Movie Take 4...and a half

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twilightsagaaddict wrote:
Jazz Girl wrote:
TopazLove wrote:According to the Lexicon blog, Solomon is officially out. :shock:
I amy be the only one, and I apologize if you are a big Solomon fan. But, I gotta say, I am pretty okay with this one, folks. It's not really ever clear who he's supposed to be, so it's not like we have this picture of Sam and then it changes. Plus, the way he does deliver his one line is just a little random to me. I can't put my finger on it, but it just rubs me the wrong way. Plus, all in all, I always thought Sam was just a little older, or should be anyway, should exude some authority. There he just looks like a pouty kid. Sorry, that's just my opinion.

I have to agree with you JazzGirl. While Solomon delivered Sam's important line inTW, it could have been anyone on "the Res" who uttered it. Sam was such a minor character in TW. Aside from those of us who are obsessed with the saga ;) , your average fan going to the movie isn't really going make a big deal of it of who plays the part.

Plus, "Sam" in NM has a much larger role-physically as well as being the leader of the pack. I think they need a more imposing actor to play the part.
I agree. He was never what I imagined Sam to be. My only hope is that they picked someone as equally dedicated to the story....
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Re: New Moon Movie Take 4...and a half

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Okay I think its just me but who is Soloman? I cant remember for the life of me.
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Soloman is the guy who played Sam. He's the one who said, "The Cullens don't come here."
or something along those lines
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Re: New Moon Movie Take 4...and a half

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Lol! I didn't even know it was Sam in the first place...
I expected Sam to be huge and muscley..

Not like im gunna be able to tell the difference when they change him... I didn't take much notice of him in Twilight anyway..
Imo.. he didn't fit the role.
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Re: New Moon Movie Take 4...and a half

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For me, though, it is the same situation with Taylor as Jacob. I am not nearly so concerned with the physical size as the actaul ability. When you cast a role, if you have a defining set of physical characterisitcs, you have to balance between ability and matching as close as possible to that set of defining characteristics. Sometimes you can play with those characteristics, sometime you just can't. For example, in Edward's case, you couldn't have cast...I don't know...Jack Black or something like that, no matter how well he played the role. It just doesn't fit. In our case, we were amazingly blessed in that Catherine was able to find someone amazingly talented who also physically fit the bill. With Edward, you can't compromise on the physical because of how much of a defining characteristic his beauty is. (Rob will just have to learn to accept that he is much closer to the physically attractive ideal than he sees himself.) It would be really hard to write that part out of the story, and we as fans would probably revolt if they tried.

But, with a character like Sam or Jacob, their physical size isn't as much a necessary component to their presence on screen. It is much more believable that a wolf doesn't necessarily have to be 6'7" than it is to believe in such a thing as an average looking vampire, the way they are presented in SM's mythology. I hope the way I am explaining it makes sense.

Really, my only hope is that this isn't being done to get another AnnaLynne McCord into the film, some other hanger on who just wants in on "the next big thing".
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Re: New Moon Movie Take 4...and a half

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I don't think AnnaLynne is a hanger on, actually. She had been up for a role in the first movie, but had to decline because of scheduling conflicts. I think it's people like the Jonas Brothers and Michael Copon - who couldn't even bother to learn the name of the movie he was so eager to be in - who are hangers on, jumping on the bandwagon.
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Re: New Moon Movie Take 4...and a half

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I think it's sad that Solomon's out because he did a lot to try and get into charcter for Sam in Twilight even though he had a tiny part. I mean, he started learning the Quileute language etc...
And I never really liked Taylor as Jacob, but he's better than Michael Copon. Twilight 2???


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Re: New Moon Movie Take 4...and a half

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Jazz Girl wrote:But, with a character like Sam or Jacob, their physical size isn't as much a necessary component to their presence on screen. It is much more believable that a wolf doesn't necessarily have to be 6'7" than it is to believe in such a thing as an average looking vampire, the way they are presented in SM's mythology. I hope the way I am explaining it makes sense.

I think I disagree with you about the werewolves thing to an extent. I think the part of vampire being attractive is just as important as a werewolf fitting the role of being "large," however I do not feel this is the case with Sam's character but more for Jake's but that may have to do with the story. I want to have Bella notice that Jake is getting taller and more muscler such as with the line when she tells Jacob he is "sort of beautiful." His getting bigger kinda gave me a timeline as to when he started to get more werewolf-ish. With Sam being a minor charcter who is alrady a werewolf when the story starts, I dont think his size is as important.
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Re: New Moon Movie Take 4...and a half

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Jazz Girl wrote:But, with a character like Sam or Jacob, their physical size isn't as much a necessary component to their presence on screen. It is much more believable that a wolf doesn't necessarily have to be 6'7" than it is to believe in such a thing as an average looking vampire, the way they are presented in SM's mythology. I hope the way I am explaining it makes sense.

I think I disagree with you about the werewolves thing to an extent. I think the part of vampire being attractive is just as important as a werewolf fitting the role of being "large," however I do not feel this is the case with Sam's character but more for Jake's but that may have to do with the story. I want to have Bella notice that Jake is getting taller and more muscler such as with the line when she tells Jacob he is "sort of beautiful." His getting bigger kinda gave me a timeline as to when he started to get more werewolf-ish. With Sam being a minor charcter who is alrady a werewolf when the story starts, I dont think his size is as important.
That's an interesting point, CaityGirl1. But, I would say that if it applies to one, wouldn't it apply at least to the whole species? If it applies to Jacob, wouldn't it need to apply to the rest of his kind if you are going to tack it on as an aspect of his being a werewolf? I guess my point is just that it is easier to have even semi normal sized people to play the werewolves and just sort of overlook the whole size thing than it would be to cast some ugly people as the vampires and still try to see the idea that they are perfect predators because they have all these "weapons" to attract their prey.
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