Saw BD2 twice on 11/16/12 and once on 11/17/12. Overall I LOVED it. Although, I feel everything before Alice drops the vase went too fast and the PAINFUL twist/vision-battle was brilliantly done (once I saw Carlisle charge I thought “vision” and once he was decapitated I thought “yep, definitely vision” and even though I knew I was watching a vision it was SOOOO PAINFUL to watch). Moving on, the sunny meadow scene was lovely although, I wish that Bella & Edward would have sparkled in this scene, I think it could have been an even nicer ending still. The extra scene giving homage to ALL the actors in the entire Saga was beautifully done, very unique, I loved it (although they did forget to mention the actors that played the Quiluete Indians from the first Twilight movie).
I thought Jacob laughed too hard (which made me laugh) and I thought Aro’s laugh was psycho-like (made me laugh harder). I thought the music from the opening credits was nice but it did not blend well when it cut into the music from the first scene.
I loved the cottage love scene, talk about up close and personal.
I LOVED how Edward, Bella, Jacob & Alice fought in the vision-battle. FABULOUS.
Everything else I pretty much LOVED or could live with.
As for the VERY interesting conversation going on here, the following are just my errant thoughts:
I have another alternative theory as to why we saw the wolves and Renesmee clearly in the vision-battle scene. Although we saw Alice’s battle-vision clearly, we technically don’t know that the vision didn’t have the blind spots for the characters (Aro and Edward) viewing her vision in the film/story. The vision in the NM-movie led us into Alice’s eyes, BD2’s battle-vision did not. So I'm going with the wolves and Renesmee were blind spots for Alice, Aro and Edward, and everyone else wasn't. As for Alice’s vision of Jacob & Renesmee’s future (which by the way I just absolutely LOVE), again I’m going to assume we saw the clear version and Alice & Edward saw Jacob and Renesmee as blind spots and Edward & Alice assumed the blind spots were Jacob & Renesmee, being that Edward and Bella were so happy and in La Push (I think it was the La Push beach). For my peace of mind, I’m choosing to believe the blind spots are there though there were no blind spots for us. It’s weak, I know, it’s what works for me.
I have a question about BD the book, if Alice can’t see Renesmee and Jacob how could she had known that 1. they needed passports and 2. because they were going to be the only ones who would have survived?
– I agree with your theory, I think the vision-battle is the fight that Alice decided will happen if they do fight. I think Aro would definitely catch Alice’s lies BUT as you point out I think Alice can manipulate future outcomes to suit her. I think if Alice would have seen that Aro would have attacked in reality, Alice was determined to kick him and make the vision a reality and she didn’t care if Aro knew it. She used Aro’s desire (to attack) to plan accordingly. The girl came prepared, she had a plan A and a plan B and she didn’t care if Aro knew what they were. Correct me if I’m wrong, but Alice’s battle-vision also worked because Alec did not get a chance to use his gift and so Aro really didn’t know how powerful Bella’s gift was. Hmmm. Maybe that’s why they had Alec use his powers before the battle being that he wasn’t going to use it in the vision-battle or later. Also, IMO, I think the vision-battle we saw was the battle that would have happened in the book, if SM would have chosen to end the book with an epic battle.
– I agree with your theory as well. The battle-vision was meant for Aro to have an incentive not fight, as you say the wolves were a side product. I actually think all the half-breeds in Alice’s visions will always be a side product. She will always have to see around them because they will always be blind spots in her vision.
– Hi. SM needs Alice’s blind spot not only in NM but in EC to help Edward trust Bella’s judgment with Jacob and the wolves and in BD at least five times (that I could count): Bella’s pregnancy; the imprinting; including Charlie in the Cullen family (in the book, when Charlie comes over Alice is able to now see around the blind spots); Renesmee’s mysterious future and who would have thought Alice was going to find Nahuel, another blind spot, to save the day.
[**Random thought just popped in my head**] I totally missed the main clue, AGAIN. I should have known, any battle in BD2 was going to be a vision. The Merchant of Venice was in the trailer and in the film, and I missed it AGAIN.