Breaking Dawn Movie, Take 1

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Re: Breaking Dawn Movie, Take 1

Post by marielle » Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:16 am

I have been wondering about that scene... why would it even be in it... who is the woman and why is Demetri fighting her?

Gianna was my first idea as well because I believe it's the same woman that brought them the wedding invitation... but why would it upset him...I never got the feeling that Demitri was very violent while reading the books...I'm still a bit baffled by why the scene is in it...
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I'm very interested to see how it will look on screen...the mind hearing thing isn't easily put in a movie... it would cause a lot of difficulties... I'm thinking they will have the Sam/Jacob showdown in human form and only in the end Jacob will phase and running back to the Cullens...
Suzan wrote:I thought I heard Nikki say something about that scene, but I can't remember when. Maybe it was before they shot it and she just said that she hoped it made the script?
Yes, Nikki (or some other Cullen) confirmed that they did shoot some of those things... I don't know exactly but they talked about how funny it was to have Rosalie face Jacob...I just hope they will leave things like that in the movie...
as MR is a big Jacob-fan I believe she put every line Jacob has in BD in the script...
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Re: Breaking Dawn Movie, Take 1

Post by corona » Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:05 pm

Marielle, I would have to take another look at the trailer, but I had always assumed that all of the Volturi's human assistants would have been killed off when they emptied the tower, since nobody stayed behind to oversee them.

I was hoping the Guide would confirm that concerning Gianna, but nope.
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Re: Breaking Dawn Movie, Take 1

Post by Chernaudi » Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:33 pm

corona wrote:Marielle, I would have to take another look at the trailer, but I had always assumed that all of the Volturi's human assistants would have been killed off when they emptied the tower, since nobody stayed behind to oversee them.

I was hoping the Guide would confirm that concerning Gianna, but nope.
Stephenie herself said that the Volutri killed her to feed off her blood. In other words, she was a snack for the likes of Aro, Caius, Marcus, or one of the guard.
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Re: Breaking Dawn Movie, Take 1

Post by Tornado » Thu Jun 30, 2011 5:12 pm

The guide says that Gianna was killed by the Volturi, although it doesn't say when. I don't think there's any reason to make this girl Gianna, though. It makes it more sinister if they make it clear that Gianna is no more. And I like Corona's idea that they're cleaning out the tower, although all these scenes are supposed to be from part 1, and that would be in part 2. Maybe the woman just says something unwise and Demetri decides to show her how worthless she is.

I had a long running debate on another site over exactly how the wolf pack conversations will be done. I do think they will need to be in human form for most of their conversations, as we'll never get the full understanding of the emotions involved if it's just CGI wolves with voice over or subtitles. It makes me cringe just to think of them doing it like that.
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Re: Breaking Dawn Movie, Take 1

Post by smitten_by_twilight » Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:39 pm

Tornado wrote:I had a long running debate on another site over exactly how the wolf pack conversations will be done. I do think they will need to be in human form for most of their conversations, as we'll never get the full understanding of the emotions involved if it's just CGI wolves with voice over or subtitles. It makes me cringe just to think of them doing it like that.
*visualizing CGI wolf telepathy and accompanying emotions* EEEWWWWWWW!!!!

I will be happy to see the Wolfpack actors getting to do some dramatic acting!
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Re: Breaking Dawn Movie, Take 1

Post by Tornado » Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:28 pm

Absolutely! I had a huge battle with someone at another site (he is one of those people who thinks that if any line in the book is changed for the movie it is a complete and utter failure!) and he told me that he could see it working very well. He had apparently seen similar things with telepathy on other shows. I pointed out to him that that would still have been with humans, NOT CGI wolves, which would be cartoonish, at best. He was not convinced.

Like you, I'm looking forward to seeing the wolf boys show their acting chops in human form.
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Re: Breaking Dawn Movie, Take 1

Post by pennybug84 » Fri Jul 01, 2011 4:31 am

As regards to Gianna the actress that brings the Volturi the wedding invitation (and who I assume is thrown by Demetri) is different than the actress that played Gianna in NM. So I think it's a different human.

I like the idea of most of the wolf conversations happening when they're human instead of wolves. I have no idea how they could do the wolf telepathy scenes well & not have it turn out weird. That was one thing I've been worried about for these movies.
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Re: Breaking Dawn Movie, Take 1

Post by corona » Fri Jul 01, 2011 4:02 pm

The only critical all-wolf scene I can think of where it wouldn't make sense in the movie to switch out to human form is when Seth first joins up with Jacob on the run back to the Cullens. No words need to be spoken, though, they could just show Jacob being very irritated and snarling, but then accepting Seth.

It's better to let the audience know who exactly it is that is speaking anyways, unless they want to pass out color-coded wolf charts.
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Re: Breaking Dawn Movie, Take 1

Post by Tornado » Fri Jul 01, 2011 5:53 pm

That's a great idea Corona! Or maybe they could put up on the screen which wolf it is. You are hearing Seth-wolf. Or Jacob-wolf says ...
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Re: Breaking Dawn Movie, Take 1

Post by smitten_by_twilight » Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:25 pm

corona wrote:unless they want to pass out color-coded wolf charts.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Y'all are cracking me up with the ideas for translating wolves to the screen for this one!
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